She looks White but she went to PowWows, and She also would eat Curry with her Indian Grandma for India. http://www.kipaddotta.com/rita-hayworth.html, Bob Hoskins Go read it. He learned English to go along with his ability to speak Russian, French, Japanese and Hungarian. If Clinton is not Rom, why would he have quietly done all he could to help us. Rita Hayworth was mixed English and Spanish (I don't know about Roma). Rita Hayworth's father and grandfather were wealthy Gitanos well known in New York. This discussion was already talked about and it was agreed that the list stays. I hope I am not coming off as hardheaded, It is a jigsaw puzzle with pieces missing. (1957) Album: "The Gypsy and I: Yul Brynner Sings Gypsy Songs" (Vanguard Records) After his lung cancer had progressed to the terminal stage, Brynner taped a public service message urging others to quit smoking. To the people saying that an individual celebrity stating they are Romany is not enough proof, I ask you, what is your ethnicity, and can you prove it? Ask yourself, why would he get so involved with my people if he was not one of us? Famous People who have voiced their Gypsy Ancestry done so to let people know they are of mixed ancestry and not 100% white or black and not 100% what they seem to be. His acting career is associated with just two roles — the King of Siam (in the King and I) and Ramses II (in Ten Commandments). I dont even say I am of Roma Ancestry to people,I am in the Midwest-USA and people never even heard of Gypsies(Roma), So my childrens children ...Will probably never know that they are of Roma Ancestry unless they are told they are. I know-a stereotypical Roma, SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN FILE EASILY. The sources state Roma ancestry --Guzman ramirez 21:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC), For Guzma Ramiaraz: Mad Jack, I responded to you further up on your lacking education of genetics and direct bloodlines. What is believed is not always the truth. And yes, I can back these claims up. Well this guy has a point. You paint such broad brushstrokes, Gypsy is different than Roma? She was in touch with her ancestry even if she wasnt 100% anything, yes. Well the same thing is going on right now, only there are no Roma to defend their own community on wikipedia (apart from gypsy-princess Robbyfox). 2. (Gabor is a well known Gypsy surname. YUL BRYNNER The Gypsy And I VINYL LP Aliosha Dimitrievitch ROMANI Serge Camps. No doubt at some stage someone will add Christopher Lee although the only suggestion that he might be of Romani ancestry is that the name Lee is the most common English Romani name, but then again it is generally quite a common English name generally, some Romani in a restaraunt he was in once recognised him and claimed he might be Romani although maybe they didn't realise that his foreign looking appearance owes more to his mother coming an Italian aristocratic family than anything else. While Brynner was still young, their father left them under the care of their mother. And I will revert it back, because unlike you, who will move on to another subject when you are fancy, I will still be here on List of Roma People, and if you go to Roma People and scroll down, to the "See Also", you will see that the list includes Mixed People. Yul Brinner. you havent made ONE Addition to this list.I think that shows your motives. There are others, I have not looked at the list yet, I happened upon this page directly thru yahoo search, but hopefully the list also includes the likes of Johnny Cash, who stated he is Rom in his last autobiography. Ethnic Roma or famous people with alleged Roma ancestry? The latest dressing room to get a Yul-a-haul is at the Warner Theater, where "The King and I" starts previews Wednesday night, 30 years after Brynner and the King of Siam become associated. Endquote. Find art you love and shop high-quality art prints, photographs, framed artworks and posters at Art.co.uk. … We've developed a few templates over the years here at JONJ. It was a requirement, or else they would have denied approval for the campsite. --This 1945 Time Magazine article is not available without a fee.--Jbull 21:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC), Freddy Prinze - Freddy Prinze Jr. his son, http://www.dzeno.cz/?c_id=6432 It would not be tenable. ^^^ARE YOU RETARDED?? As for the "Gypsy and Road Travellers Federation" I do not know this organization and I am sure that 95% of Roma in Europe have never heard of it. $55.00 . Imagine someone started adding random people into the article because "his great grandfather was supposedly half jewish". 3:19 PREVIEW The End of the Road. How will she be classified? We are talking about people here, not dogs!--Guzman ramirez 21:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC), You get the idea-mixed ethnicity, That is the only thing you have to criticize? There are also the Romnichal in Great Britain, but I am still not sure if these are real ethnic Roma... Anyways Roma is the official policitally correct term for all these groups originating in North West India.--Burgas00 10:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC), The term "Roma and Sinti" is used to describe both groups. Roma people has been nominated to be improved on the Improvement Drive. She … Expressions used such as "Bullcrap" are also dead giveaways. http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Spain/Andalucia/Sevilla-253763/Things_To_Do-Sevilla-Triana_District-R-1.html-, The people on it are not randomly picked, @#%# Gadjos, you want everybody to do everything for you.Here's an idea, next time, find them yourself. Yul was a hidden Jew, right? That would seem a bit odd. I have cut down the list although I think it should be cut down quite a bit more. Yul Brynner won a best actor Oscar for playing King Mongkut of Siam in the 1956 film version of the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical The King and I. It is in Paris that Brynnersang gypsy songs and playing the guitar in the Parisi… Having Roma Heritage does constitute being on the list of "People with Roma Heritage", that is why the list is exists, to differentiate between the two. The definition of the Gypsy and Road Travellers Federation is that anyone with a quarter or more Romani (Sinti/Roma) ancestry is counted as a Romani automatically but some of the tribes only count people who are full blooded from their tribe as there is even a dispute what constitutes Romani among some. I know things need to be verified in certain things like science,law,logic,etc...but there is very little verifiable evidence in regards to Roma Ancestry, along with other ethnic groups for that matter. Or how about Madonna? I apologize. Freddy Prinze by his own affirmations is Roma The usage could suggest a gypsy lifesstyle and not ethnicity. or allegedly. His vitsa vouched for him. Yul Brynner (b. July 11, 1920, d. October 10, 1985) was a Russian-born American stage and film actor. He was best known for his portrayal of the King of Siam in the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical The King and I, for which he won two Tony Awards and an Academy Award for the film version; he played the role 4,625 times on stage. was a Gypsy". Well she follows the Kabballa and has changed her name to Esther!! I personally wouldnt have chosen to be a "gypsy". Charlie Chaplin did state he was Romany. Ava Gardner Roma by her own affirmations Anastasia is a 1956 American historical drama film directed by Anatole Litvak and written by Arthur Laurents.Set in interwar France, the film follows a plot related to rumors that the Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna of Russia, the youngest daughter of the late Tsar Nicholas II and Empress Alexandra Feodorovna, survived the execution of her family in 1918. I agree basically with the statement made by Burgas00 above, which I reproduce below: We owe the Roma people some respect: Imagine this page was called "list of jewish people". She was well known for her high pitched soprano voice. Out of his activities as a passionate ambassador of the Gypsy tradition, he is considered an exotic leading man of American films, famed as much for his completely … $41.00 2 bids + $5.00 shipping . Bob Hoskins? I also know that there are similiar Roma communities ,like those in Eastern Europe ,in Spain and France where i lived for a while. Please, give me a break. This list is for Roma, Sinti and MIXED PEOPLE- GO TO Roma People scroll down and it says ROMA, SINTI AND MIXED PEOPLE.......MIXED PEOPLE!!!!!!! Past Imperfect 3 2. It's not like she claimed it was her cousin 5 generations back and 10 times removed. Also Nikita Denise is Roma she grew up in Slovakia and is fully Roma. No, but I think that acknowledgement is positive when people have mixed ancestry. THE YUL BRYNNER COOKBOOK First Edition Gypsy Thai Swiss Russian More Cuisine VG. https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/yul-brynner-3242.php Btw I think the rule is "assume good faith". The chances are that a young girl from midwest America who thinks she is a Gypsy and thinks that a long list of people (Bill Clinton, Britney Spears, Elvis Presley...) are also Gypsies, can only be white 8-), and I would add blonde!!!! Then why the term Roma AND Sinti, as if they are two different groups? I dont know she was on the list from before I began coming here, Tony Gatlif I don't want to be misunderstood, like I'm having something against Roma people. Known as the bald cowboy in The Magnificent Seven and the sexy, charismatic male lead in The King and I, Yul Brynner was a Hollywood paragon of masculinity. http://www.bookrags.com/biography-august-krogh-wap/, http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/roma/gft/gft138.htm, http://thorntree.lonelyplanet.com/messagepost.cfm?postaction=reply&catid=40&threadid=13776&messid=82235&STARTPAGE=1&parentid=0&from=1, http://www.mtv.com/bands/b/branch_michelle/news_feature_100601/index.jhtml, Who keeps taking out Yul Brynner and Ava Gardner?, both are documented as being of Roma Descent, --Please post this documentation.--Jbull 20:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC), http://www.geocities.com/~patrin/culture.htm, Again you need to read the whole web page, http://www.curiousnotions.com/home/gazetteer/_rom.html, http://www.tvacres.com/ethnic_thailander.htm. Below are some other good claims agians others on this list and there are others I may look into further to see how they got on this list in the first place. --Burgas00 11:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC), I think the bbc would have mentioned Picasso being a Roma on this article on "Picasso and the Gypsies": http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/A6864285 Roma is the part of Mother Theresa's heritage that is not disputed..it's her other half that gets argued over. She is Native American, White, and Indian-all at the same time. No I did'nt. http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm, Rita Hayworth Someone claiming that their great grandfather was a gypsy (or cherokee for that matter) does not qualify them as belonging to the Roma ethnic group. A fact that had to be proven to the council in London in order to establish the Gypsy campsite there. You tell me my opinions are similar to the NAZI'S? If one is a Sinti as Django Reinhardt, that wold make him not Roma, but Sinti. Gypsy? It is among the Roma where Brynner has learned to play the guitar and play on the trapeze. Roma encompass the Gitanos, Sintis and Kalderash. Being Gypsy and having Gypsy blood are two different things, this list is of people with Gypsy blood.You know more about my family than myself,also you would'nt talk like this to my face, so why hurl insults to people you dont know? Michelle Branch has noted in passing that her great grandmother was a fortune teller and gypsy. Stream songs including "The Line of Fate", "The End of the Road" and more. I once asked them how they met, my parents said they were on a bus and met each other trying to pick their pockets." This seems to be the main point of contention in this article. !, the older people in my family told me how they were herded into trains, no room to sit, and standing in piss and shit, people dying in the rail cars.Were did they come? Picasso was quite proud of it. Do I care if anyone believes me? http://psychcentral.com/psypsych/Helen_Mirren, Denny Laine You act as if the world is Black and White.They are mixed Roma But can we do the reverse? I have not expressed my point of view on this issue yet, and you are already attacking me. So it should'nt be surprising that many different people have Roma blood.Here in Oklahoma I thought I was alone in the fact that I knew I was part Romany and no one else, I was mistaken. Gypsy King 10 3. Even 1/4 blood Gypsies I know have Gypsy names and are in contact with their family and culture. From there we can provide each person named on this list with additional notes on tribal or Vitsa connections if we have that info. No. Yul Brynner was born on July 11th, 1920. http://www.bookrags.com/biography-august-krogh-wap/, Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira I am sorry that you can't except that many people don't fall into the Black & White, Light & Dark, This or That, fallacy. If someone has only one Roma father or mother they are not fully Roma. Yul Brinner. The page on David Essex states that he is the grandson of an Irish Traveller. Buy Yul Brynner: A Biography by Michelangelo Capua (ISBN: 9780786424610) from Amazon's Book Store. Yul Brynner won a best actor Oscar for playing King Mongkut of Siam in the 1956 film version of the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical The King and I. The law of exponents? Yul Brynner (to view image author and license, click here) ... An early bout with TB also limited his gymnastic activities, so he moved into the performance of Russian and Gypsy songs in clubs. These people should be added not erased, There is much evidence on this page. We use cookies and similar tools to enhance your shopping experience, to provide our services, understand how customers use our services so we can make improvements, and display ads. Furthermore, he also successfully petitioned the UN to recognise Roma as an ethnic minority. Therefore, I am moving the list of "distant" ancestry here (as anyone is allowed to remove any content from Wikipedia that is unsourced). I can tell you right now, my aunt was at the opening of London's largest camp site. Born Taidje Khan on July 11, 1917, on the island of Sakhalin off northern Japan, Brynner was the son of a Mongolian mining engineer and a Gypsy mother who … It's simple. Well Sintis are Roma right? She claims her great grandmother was Romany. Sintis are considered one of the Roma subgroups. Born Youl Bryner in Russia, he played gypsy guitar and worked as a trapeze clown until a severe injury motivated him to pursue his interest in theater. or White? But there is one name that you will have difficulty pronouncing, let alone identifying as an actor you have seen before. Plus 100,000 AM/FM radio stations featuring music, news, and local sports talk. Brynner began smoking heavily aged 12. 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